Speaking Sensis

According to Gerry Sutton, Sensis’ Chief Operating Officer, the Yellow Pages® and White Pages® directories are winning for buyers, sellers, investors and the Australian community.

WA:    Gerry, thanks for your time. You must have been busy since taking over the Yellow Pages® and White Pages® in May.

GS:    You bet. We’re right in the middle of the Yellow Pages® metro sales campaign, and the White Pages® has just kicked off its new campaign. So I’ve been all over Australia… meeting our people and our customers.

WA:    What are your initial observations about the Yellow Pages® and White Pages®?

GS:    Well, as you know, I’ve been very close to these businesses for a long time now. So I can’t give you a true ‘outsiders’ view. But I would say there are three things that have always struck me about our directories.

First up, this is a significant business. Yellow Pages® and White Pages® earns about $1.75bn in revenue and meets the needs of millions of buyers and almost 600,000 advertisers. The bulk of those advertiser customers are Australian small and medium businesses.

Secondly, it’s a real people business. Most advertising connects brands and markets. We’re bringing real people – buyers and sellers – together. Two people at a time. We’re about generating phone calls and store visits from people who are ready to buy right now.

And the way we work with our customers. It’s all person to person. Managing this business is about working with thousands of people to meet the very specific needs of millions… every day.

Thirdly, it’s a very sophisticated business. Yellow Pages® advertisers now reach out to potential buyers not only through the print directories, but an extensive online, voice and mobile network that includes brands like Yellow Pages® Online, Yellow Pages® Mobile, 1234 and Whereis®. And, now, Yellow Pages® listings can also be searched for through third party sites like Bing Maps, Google Maps and Yahoo! OneSearch, which is Yahoo!’s mobile search application.

There are few other media businesses that have broken down the barriers in the way Yellow Pages® has.

WA:    Gerry, you’ve talked about a back to basics approach. What do you mean?

GS:    As I’ve said, this is a real people business. We’ll grow by constantly getting better at meeting our customers’ needs. For us that means more information more easily for buyers and more customers for our advertisers. Do that well and we’ll grow satisfaction, usage, advertiser uptake and, ultimately revenue. It’s that simple.

I’m a big fan of customer satisfaction metrics. They’re no-holds-barred feedback on whether you’re doing the right thing by the customer. And it’s been gratifying to see both buyer and seller satisfaction rise strongly in recent times.

We’ve achieved that by really focussing our attention on customer needs. From the info-rich ad program, which helps advertisers produce more effective advertising, to metered ads, which help them understand ad performance. We’ve launched new services like Yellow™ in the car in nine markets as well as White Pages® Mobile. We’ve added new content products to Yellow Pages® Online and White Pages® Online. These content products help buyers by giving them more information and advertisers by giving them a stronger presence.

And, you know what? These content products have taken off. Take the White Pages® Online Package product for advertisers. Advertiser uptake has gone way beyond our expectations. This one product is almost solely responsible for White Pages® Online revenue tripling in two years.

That’s what I mean by back to basics. Deliver what the customer wants. Do that well and everything else will pretty much look after itself.

WA:    What about usage – particularly print? It’s a pretty hotly debated topic in the industry.

GS:     The Yellow Pages® print directories are valued highly by many Australians. According to Roy Morgan, almost 7m Australians use them every month¹. About 4m of these print directory users are also daily Internet users². These are people who use the Internet all the time, and yet they still see value in using the print directory. After all, it can often be quicker to find and compare businesses in print. At the other end of the scale, about a third of Australian households don’t have Internet access, according to the ABS³. For them, print directories could be their only access to information on local people and businesses.

In saying all this, however, there’s two really important points I need to make.

Firstly, I think the advertising community needs to get beyond this print vs online discussion. We live in a multi-channel world now and the whole print vs online debate is pretty dated.

So we’re really focussed on the usage the combined network delivers our customers. As I’ve said, unique usage of Yellow Pages® print is almost 7m a month⁴. At the same time, usage of our digital network is about 4.8m a month⁵. And unique usage of the third party sites we have arrangements with is about 4.5m a month⁶.

And Yellow Pages® advertiser listings can be searched for through all these services.

Secondly, usage maybe the word on the industry’s lips, but it isn’t, on its own, the main game.

Our customers are interested in winning business – emails, phone calls, store visits and so on. So conversion becomes really important. How many of those users contacted me and how many of them buy? How many leads is my advertising generating for me?

We know from years of research that about 90% of buyers using the Yellow Pages® directory go on to contact a business and about 72% of them buy⁷.

There’s few, if any advertising businesses that can deliver the volume of users and high conversion – in short, the numbers of leads – that Yellow Pages® can.

But now we’re getting more granular with this. As I said, we’ve introduced the info rich advertising program to help our customers create more effective ads. This helps them convert more users into callers.

And we’ve introduced metered ads so our customers can get a really strong sense of not just usage but of the actual calls they’re receiving.

In the end, these numbers – unique usage across all the directories, sites and services, conversion, number of calls – all matter to our customers. Not how’s print doing against online.

WA:    So, Gerry, where do you see the future for directories?

GS:    That’s a good question. I couldn’t begin to answer it completely in a short interview. But here’s a few thoughts.

Directories advertising is traditionally about significant events in a person’s life… weddings, buying a house or car and so on, or unplanned events such as a breakdown of some sort.

And that’s still the major driver of usage. But I think that with the integration of directories content, maps and mobiles into local search, we’ve been able to create a more day to day whenever, wherever you are proposition. Something you use to find your way around every day.

That’s why I think local search and directories is such an exploding market. If you look at usage across all local search sites, it’s grown massively over the last few years.

And I think we can get much better at using our directories to make life easier every day. We can make the whole cross-channel experience much more seamless, with print, online, voice and mobile all talking to each other in different ways.

And we can add sat nav, point of sale scanning and so on.

It won’t matter where you are or what you’re doing, you’ll only ever be a few clicks away from whatever you need.

I guess the other thing I’d add is a comment about digital TV. As you know, I’ve been involved in the digital TV industry for many years. And I’m really interested in seeing how local search and digital TV come together.

But that’s a few years away yet.

WA:    Thanks a lot Gerry.

1: Roy Morgan, Single Source Australia. Average monthly unique users, Yellow Pages® print. April 2008 to March 2009. Base: Austalians 14+
2: ibid
3: Australian Bureau of Statistics, Household Use of Information Technology, Australia, 2007-08
4: Roy Morgan, Single Source Australia. Average monthly unique users, Yellow Pages® print. April 2008 to March 2009. Base: Austalians 14+
5: ibid.
6: ibid.
7: Percentage of serches conducted using the Yellow Pages® Directory that resulted in a business or supplier being contacted. Independent research of people aged 18-64, conducted by TNS in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaeide and Perth, January – March 2007 and July – December 2007.

There’s a lot of improvement going on at Sensis. And our customers like what they’re seeing.

If there’s one thing this world definitely doesn’t want for, it’s business advice.

I mean, there’s more business books out there today than skivvies at a Trekkies convention. If you don’t believe me, try searching for “marketing” at Amazon.com’s book section… and be amazed by the mind-snapping 535,000 results you get .

The irony is that this torrent of advice all boils down to some pretty basic principles. And the most fundamental of them all is:

Give your customers what they want.

With that in mind, Sensis has been working closely with the buyers and sellers who rely on our services: listening to them, learning about their needs and launching the solutions to help them.

This approach has led to a stream of new innovations over the last couple of years. From info-rich advertising and metered ads to the Yellow™ in the car directory, to agreements with Ninemsn and Google Maps, to re-builds of our directory web sites to the new mobile sites that are now delivering 8% of our total digital traffic (1) .

More importantly, this customer-centric approach – which can be seen not just in our product development, but in our focus on effective sales and customer service – has contributed to a real spike in customer satisfaction. Between February 08 and May 09, for example, satisfaction among users of our directory sites increased by 10 percentage points (pp) for Yellow Pages® OnLine (2) and 14pp for White Pages® OnLine (3).

And we’re keeping the heat on the innovation front so we can deliver continuous improvement to our customers. In just the last fortnight, for example, we’ve launched the following upgrades to our digital local search sites.

Easy to access

Buyers are looking for more touchpoints, so they can access our services whenever and wherever they want to.

To assist this, we’ve just launched White Pages® Mobile. The new mobile version of White Pages® gives you access to residential, business or government contacts together with maps and directions and the ability to save listings to your contacts or share them with friends. And it’s all just one click away from the BigPond mobile menu.

We’ve also improved the popular send to mobile feature on Whereis.com. Send to mobile is a simple way to send your online search results to your mobile. That way, you can easily take the business details you found on your computer out on the road with you.

Easy to search

People are also looking for easier ways to search – less entry boxes and more relevant results. Over the last fortnight, we’ve continued to answer this call by launching:

• Streamlined search in White Pages® OnLine. We’ve reduced the number of entry windows, which means less typing and faster results. For example, the number of business search windows has shrunk from four to two.
• Auto-complete for White Pages® OnLine searches. By suggesting answers while you’re typing this new facility saves even more time and helps ensure more relevant results.
• New user-friendly URLs for Yellow Pages® OnLine advertiser pages. This means site users can easily bookmark the results page for businesses they’re interested in. And, if you’re an advertiser, you can link straight from your web site to your Yellow Pages® OnLine ad.
• The addition of business listing names to the Yellow Pages® OnLine search algorithm. This has the potential to greatly expand the relevant results site users will receive. For example, a search for Thai Restaurants on the Gold Coast currently returns 87 listings, instead of only 26 in the past.

Easy to find

And what about when you’ve found the business listing you want? What are we doing to make it easier for you to get in contact with that business?

If you’re hungry, Yellow Pages® OnLine has made it easier than ever to book a restaurant or order a meal. There are already over 500 registered Menulog restaurants across Australia that are now also listed with Yellow Pages® OnLine under headings like Restaurants and Cafes.  For example, you can search for Indian Restaurants in Melbourne VIC, and find restaurants like Nirankar Fine Indian Cuisine or Bombay Beat Restaurant that provide one click access to Menulog’s booking and ordering facilities.

We’ve also added landmark navigation to the Whereis.com web site. As a result, you’ll begin seeing turn by turn directions like “turn right at the Post Office” rather than just “turn right in 200m”. This enhancement is the result of research undertaken by Melbourne Uni’s Geomatics department and Whereis. The research clearly showed that people are able to navigate more easily and precisely using landmarks.

I hope you’ll agree that that’s not a bad haul for a fortnight. But it’s far from the end. Continuous improvement means continuous innovation, so keep your eye on Speaking Sensis for more listening, learning and launching in the future.

Today, Sensis CEO Bruce Akhurst spoke at an American Chamber of Commerce luncheon on what he describes as The Age of Engagement.

Digital media isn’t merely cannibalising traditional media. It’s giving marketers new tools to work with and the ability to build deep, valuable relationships with customers.

The first presentation in this series looks at how local search is helping marketers support consumer purchase decisions in exciting new ways. And how the next generation of local search is being driven by the mobile phone.

The second presentation looks at social media. Be sure to check back as this presentation will be uploaded shortly.

Times might be tough in the media sector today, but there’s a lot about the future to be excited about.

This week, Bruce Akhurst, the CEO of Sensis, will be sharing his thoughts on the future in a two-part presentation: The Age of Engagement.

The first part of his speech – covering the rise of local search – will be delivered at an American Chamber of Commerce luncheon in Sydney this Thursday, 23 April.

And, in a departure from the norm, part two of this presentation, which covers the rise of social media will be delivered using – what else – social media!

So, pop back to the Speaking Sensis blog this Friday, 24 April. You’ll be able to view both of Bruce’s speeches.

My last couple of entries have looked back on 2008.’s

Now it’s time to turn from past to future, with eight trends for 2009.

It’s a testing time for the media sector today. But despite the impacts of the economic downturn, there’s a lot to be optimistic about. The key will be focusing on customer needs and listening to what your customers are saying to you.

Which is why we’ve dubbed 2009 ‘the year of the customer’.

Have a read and tell us what you think. Do you agree… or not? What do you think this year’s hot spots will be and why?

Mobiles make mainstream

Mobile advertising has been promising big things for years. Now it’s delivering and, this year, mobile advertising will make the mainstream.

I could spend hours talking about the unique capabilities mobiles offer marketers (and I will do soon), but, for now, let’s talk numbers.

From January 08 to January 09, traffic to Sensis Mobile sites grew on average 12% A MONTH . Mobile now represents 8% of Sensis’ total Australian digital traffic – and it’s growing fast(1) .

And, according to MediaSmart (Sensis’ digital display advertising business), the uptake of mobile display campaigns is currently running at almost three times the rate it did last year.

Think mobile advertising is a way off? Think again.

Integration

The marketing challenges created by fragmentation (people spreading their media consumption) has been a hot topic for years.

In 2009, we’ll turn our attention from the problem to the solution – integration, multi-channel, cross-platform or whatever you choose to call it.

Increasingly, media companies will bundle different media into multi-brand, multi-product networks. This way, advertisers can access a larger base of consumers with a single purchase and manage their media strategy in a co-ordinated way.

Sensis has been executing on this for a while through our Yellow Pages® print, online, voice, mobile and sat nav network. We”re also seeing strong traction for cross platform advertising in the activities of a number of major media players, including the Mitchell Communication Group’’s cross-platform media negotiations, which received considerable media coverage late last year.

Expect integrated campaigns to steadily become the norm.

Syndication

Okay. So, major media providers are increasingly enabling cross-platform advertising. But what about the web itself? After all, it isn’t just one platform, it’s millions. About 108 million at best guess(2). How can you possibly reach out across such a diverse landscape?

In the past, going online meant having a web site and not much more. This year will see more marketers stepping outside their web sites to create syndicated content that windows that reach out right across the web.

Today, advertisers are increasingly using blog, video and even Powerpoint networks like LiveJournal, Wordpress, YouTube and Slideshare to generate and deliver content. They’re using a blinding array of sharing and syndication tools to spread that content everywhere. And the whole lot is search engine optimised, including their Yellow Pages® and White Pages® listings.

The end result is an easy to manage content store streaming content out to a whole mass of proprietary and public sites. You’re heavily increasing potential reach and enabling a whole range of different opportunities, like the ability for people to discuss, share or subscribe to your content.

No doubt about it, there’s more work in this than the old model. But the spin-offs are potentially huge, which is why you‘ll see far more syndication occurring in the future.

Social Media

While we’re on the subject, there’s no doubt that social media is the hot topic right now.

And it’s likely to stay that way. YouTube and Facebook usage continues to grow at almost obscene rates. According to Roy Morgan, over 5.5m Australians used these two sites every month in the September quarter last year – up 1.8m on the previous year(3).

Meanwhile, Coca Cola’s Facebook page now has over 3 million fans !(4)

So social media is a big potential opportunity. But how do you unlock it?

The exciting thing about social media this year won’t just be its growth. It will be the fact that marketers will work out how to use it.

Engagement versus eyeballs

But, to do that, there’ll need to be a major (and very welcome) shift in how we perceive the role of marketing.

Will marketers get value out of social media by using it as another way of shoving brands in people’s faces?

No. They’ll drive value by using social (and other) media to genuinely engage people in conversations and learn from their views. They’ll use media as a channel to provide service – not just taglines – to consumers. They’ll begin sharing, rather than just promoting, their brands and they’ll use media to go right to the source: seeking consumer views on everything from product development to customer service to community relations.

Make no mistake. This is a quantum shift. As a result, brand awareness will start giving way to brand ownership and the role marketing plays in the business will change forever.

Accountability

Here’s a disturbing irony. While digital media is touted as highly accountable, a lack of accountability is still seen as the greatest roadblock by online advertisers. For example, a 2007 McKinsey survey(5) found that over 50% of digital advertisers nominated “insufficient metrics to measure impact” as a barrier to adoption.

The IAB is currently undertaking a much welcomed revision of online measurement guidelines and industry standardisation.

Let’s hope the many issues confronting online measurement can be resolved, including the ability to align online metrics with other media and the ability to measure the rapidly growing mobile landscape in a standardised way.

Of course, accountability doesn’t apply solely to online. Traditional media need to become more transparent about ROI as well. One example of how Sensis is following through with this is our Yellow Pages® metered ads. Unique phone numbers are used on Yellow Pages® ads and then monitored. In this way, the advertiser can see exactly how many calls their ad is generating.

Advertisers have been demanding accountability for some time now. Over the next year, you’ll start to see media providers – both online and offline – start to really deliver it.

Tough times

So there’s a lot of exciting things going on today. But you can’t realistically talk about 2009 without mentioning the global downturn and it’s impact on media.

In Australia, the Sensis Business Index and Sensis Consumer Report are reflecting global trends by finding the lowest levels of consumer and business confidence in their history.

This declining confidence has had a sobering impact on advertising and media.

Almost every major Australian media business is staring at falling revenue, although it’s pleasing for us that Sensis has been a notable exception.

And even the major dot.com high flyers are experiencing either curbed growth or revenue declines.

There is a feeling that things will improve for the industry in 2010, although recent downward revisions in forecasts from various analysts suggest we may not yet be at the bottom of this cycle.

The year of the customer

And this leads me to the final trend. 2009 will be the year of the customer.

Over the last few years, the industry has been beset by discussions about systemic changes. Is traditional giving way to digital? Are advertising business models changing?

These discussions, while vital, have tended to divert the industry’s attention away from the most fundamental and vital question of all – are we delivering what our customers (both consumers and advertisers) want?

Whether they’re traditional, digital or both, the companies that survive and thrive through this downturn will all have one thing in common.

They’ll be focused unerringly on the needs of their customers.

1: Omniture. Visits to Sensis sites. January 2008 to January 2009.
2: www.domaintools.com
3: Roy Morgan Single Source Australia. October 2007 to September 2008. Base Australians 14+.
4: Facebook
5: How Companies are Marketing Online – A McKinsey Global Survey. September 2007.